tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post5237618218407891756..comments2024-03-11T20:55:07.393-07:00Comments on 17 Power, A Seattle Seahawks Blog: The Myth of the Patriots Trade-DownUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-71979485086751714362011-03-18T11:30:54.147-07:002011-03-18T11:30:54.147-07:00Agreed. The Pats had some decent hits in the fourt...Agreed. The Pats had some decent hits in the fourth round, including some typical depth, but other than that, not much to write home about.Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-47103409953886299352011-03-17T23:14:38.946-07:002011-03-17T23:14:38.946-07:00Great writeup! I'd add the caveat that the Pa...Great writeup! I'd add the caveat that the Patriots' ability to actually draft players of decent caliber at those extra draft picks is not indicative of their ability to acquire the picks. If they actually had someone who could pick quality players with those picks they obtained the way they do, they'd be something like 9-1 in championships this past decade.Jonathan Dalarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08001176878191347542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-23861666747917513352011-03-09T12:19:43.994-08:002011-03-09T12:19:43.994-08:00The reason the Patriots always seem to be successf...The reason the Patriots always seem to be successful in the draft is because they have a quarterback named Tom Brady. That guy makes the entire offense amazing with mediocre players (i.e. Deion Branch). He single handedly makes up for their horrible defense by keeping them in every game. This is the reason the QB position is the most important. It's why the Hawks should explore every possibility to find a great QB. A great QB will keep us competitive for 10-15 years. Hopefully the new collective bargaining agreement will have a slotted rookie salary cap and allow teams to quickly dispose of crappy players.Bjorn Jonassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02556456717173573512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-15166332222760089142011-03-08T10:07:31.051-08:002011-03-08T10:07:31.051-08:00Now THAT, Kyle, is exactly what the Patriots do. I...Now THAT, Kyle, is exactly what the Patriots do. I'm writing the companion piece on that right now!Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-64407581418581314952011-03-08T10:04:00.452-08:002011-03-08T10:04:00.452-08:00Nice breakdown. I do think the tradedown strategy...Nice breakdown. I do think the tradedown strategy can still be justified, with caution. Second round picks, and occasionally third round picks, in quantity can trump a first rounder, especially when a team has a lot of holes and the team isn't drafting in a franchise-changing position of the top ten or fifteen. Your analysis proves that, to an extent. If second-round picks hit at more than 50% rate, then trading two 2s for a 1 should work, as long as you are not passing on a 1 that is a pro-bowler.<br /><br />I'd accompany that with another strategy that nobody seems to talk about, which is trading up in rounds 2 and 3. It costs less than trading up in round 1, but can yield big results. I'd rather have a draft with 3 2nd rounders and 4 3rd rounders than a conventional spread--that's an impossible hypothetical, I realize, but there is a lot of value in 2 and 3.<br /><br />All of this still requires a smart scouting team and wise management. I suppose that trumps any strategy.Kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-76494244136617449092011-03-07T20:05:12.285-08:002011-03-07T20:05:12.285-08:00Yeah I was going to suggest that actually as well....Yeah I was going to suggest that actually as well. I was just looking at the Packers' last few years of the draft, but it would be great to see it broken out like you did above. Could give you an idea as to what types of players Schneider and company looked at and the success rate he's had with those picks.<br />Ps, I'm glad you like the blog, and thanks for linking to it on your page!Dan Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16035716318433510551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-71285650094031097712011-03-07T19:15:40.758-08:002011-03-07T19:15:40.758-08:00Brilliant piece, Brandon.Brilliant piece, Brandon.Robhttp://www.seahawksdraftblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-53695340312658912552011-03-07T18:25:51.303-08:002011-03-07T18:25:51.303-08:00Now that you mention it, that does sound pretty im...Now that you mention it, that does sound pretty important.Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-32028831732485747992011-03-07T18:24:38.924-08:002011-03-07T18:24:38.924-08:00Great writeup. If you're ever looking for anot...Great writeup. If you're ever looking for another project, I would be interested to see a similar writeup on the Packers (since Schneider comes from there and their goal is to build through the draft).Tylernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-16565965415281775132011-03-07T17:09:16.077-08:002011-03-07T17:09:16.077-08:00I do think that New England might regret trading R...I do think that New England might regret trading Richard Seymour, even if it was for a first-round pick.Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-55430914848787147162011-03-07T16:41:28.773-08:002011-03-07T16:41:28.773-08:00Good read (Other than the "There doesn't ...Good read (Other than the "There doesn't seem to be any *no* magic going on here." double negative.)<br /><br />I've never liked trading a marquee player/position for multiple picks. It probably stems from when the Hawks traded away the rights to draft Tony Dorsett. If a player is a headache, and you can get multiple high draft picks for him (Joey Galloway, 2-1st round picks), then I am for it. But for the most part, it is the team that gets the rights to the marquee player that sees the benefits.<br /><br />For every Dallas trade of a Herschel Walker, where multiple picks catapult a franchise into championship form, there are ten that set the franchise further back than before. <br /><br />The one thing that I think that New England does better than anyone else is with their blocking. It's not so much their scheme, but their attitude. You never see an offensive lineman standing around. Each lineman hits somebody on EVERY play. Even if a lineman has his assigned player taken care of, it's demoralizing, and fatiguing to get hit by another lineman. I've always viewed this philosophy as just wearing your opponent down. Not only does it keep the defensive linemen on their guard, but it allows the offensive linemen to always keep their heads in the game, and give them better conditioning because they never take a play off.<br /><br />Jim Kellyneurocellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12682975810327678648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-12986908447829380392011-03-07T16:14:45.678-08:002011-03-07T16:14:45.678-08:00Thanks Dan! Nice blog, by the way - I check it reg...Thanks Dan! Nice blog, by the way - I check it regularly.Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-52899198391613061172011-03-07T15:39:35.277-08:002011-03-07T15:39:35.277-08:00awesome writeup, thanks for doing the research on ...awesome writeup, thanks for doing the research on this. <br />"Starters come from the first three rounds, depth and camp fodder come from the latter three rounds, and the fourth round is borderline - that's the generally accepted methodology for the draft."<br />That's a great summation.Dan Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16035716318433510551noreply@blogger.com