tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post1273982134126048771..comments2024-03-11T20:55:07.393-07:00Comments on 17 Power, A Seattle Seahawks Blog: Lukewarm on the Red Bryant Re-SigningUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-76393732875416322562012-03-29T19:43:53.118-07:002012-03-29T19:43:53.118-07:00I run across these writs all the time criticizing ...I run across these writs all the time criticizing our guys. But their moves keep paying off and none of you know-it-alls ever want to admit you were wrong and give credit where credit is due. Try bad mouthing the other team and supporting ours sometime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-21501618773541160972012-03-22T01:46:59.037-07:002012-03-22T01:46:59.037-07:00So, you're lukewarm on Red and actually think ...So, you're lukewarm on Red and actually think Tarvaris should keep his job... I don't get it.<br /><br />I started reading and the first thing you suggest is that signing Red "complicates" signing the often injured, highest priced free agent there was available. <br /><br />The Seahawks already have a guy that gives you 75% of Mario Williams at 10% of the cost. Mario Williams plays the same position as Clemons and the Seahawks don't need him. Signing Williams is a move that the Redskins would make... I don't look to that franchise as a model I want the Seahawks to follow. Plus, Williams hasn't played a full season for several years and is once again coming off an injury.<br /><br />I continue reading.<br /><br />What about the "Bryant Experiment" becoming a long term option is bad? Bryant on the strong side is a force that opponents cannot get past. Not allowing teams to run the ball is a good thing. <br /><br />I don't know if you noticed, but when Red went down with an injury two seasons ago, Seattle's run defense went from #2 in the league to #23. Then, when he was back for last season, Seattle's run defense was back among the top teams. What more will it take to convince you that his impact IS "all that"?<br /><br />I agree with you on the pass rush lacking. I don't know if you realize it, but Pete and John have brought in several different DT's (those are the middle two guys on the line) trying to find one that can get a pass rush. Red can't give you much in the way of a pass rush because he is constantly double and triple teamed because teams don't need to double any of the other players along Seattle's defensive line. <br /><br />I guess a guy that tells me "if there are four guys on the line when the ball is snapped it's a 4-3", I should already know that you have absolutely no clue, but I couldn't help myself... I kept reading this garbage anyway.<br /><br />It seems like you don't really know what you want unless the media tells you that you want it. When you go out on your own, you back Tarvaris Jackson, which is just another stupid thing to do. <br /><br />Red is not the problem. Red probably took less to stay in Seattle than he could have gotten elsewhere. Getting one of the best run stuffers for what Seattle paid is a coup in itself. If you want pass rush, look for help for Red, not his replacement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-88257596901730716382012-03-21T09:39:23.056-07:002012-03-21T09:39:23.056-07:00@Anonymous - you can't value a starting defens...@Anonymous - you can't value a starting defensive end by the pick-sixes or blocked field goals he gets. Those aren't really their job, either. The pick-six was practically handed to him on a silver platter by a bad QB under pressure by KJ Wright (who also tipped Red his previous interception). <br /><br />I agree Red's job is not to get sacks, but it needs to be SOMEBODY'S job, and usually the DE is best positioned to do it. The blocked field goals are great, but their expected value per game probably wouldn't stack up against the value of getting sacks and ending drives further upfield.Brandon Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03533683928083230398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-29142718624898004522012-03-20T08:22:37.204-07:002012-03-20T08:22:37.204-07:00CBS had him at #2 overallCBS had him at #2 overallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-51098331476086859332012-03-20T08:17:08.905-07:002012-03-20T08:17:08.905-07:00I hear all the time that any big guy can step in a...I hear all the time that any big guy can step in and play the 5-tech like Red.So then any big guy can block 4 kicks ? Or get the pick-6 ? Nope. Red is a huge, strong, fast football player. He is a team leader and a playmaker. He is also the "lynch-pin" on the D-line. What he does,(very well) on the strong side of the line is what enables the whole front 7 to operate as they do. Similar to Earl Thomas in the secondary. He doesn't get sacks. Well that's not his job in this defense. He is of huge value to this team & would be very hard to replace. Great signing for this team!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-38186966492747686092012-03-18T10:27:19.930-07:002012-03-18T10:27:19.930-07:00Getting Jones could improve the pass rush if he pl...Getting Jones could improve the pass rush if he plays like he has previously, and I also believe we will get a decent player in the draft that will help in that department. Red just needs to keep what he is doing, and the other guys are going to have to get after the QB. Jones will really help Mebane in the middle.Largent80https://www.blogger.com/profile/07105955259841372099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-4855953662088713452012-03-18T08:47:34.686-07:002012-03-18T08:47:34.686-07:00Boo Hoo!, You sound like a Tool when you complain ...Boo Hoo!, You sound like a Tool when you complain about a "TOP 10 Defense",and Red is a huge part of this "TOP 10 Defense" that you are complaining about... Just because you have two pass-rushers doesn't mean you have a "TOP 10 Defense" and just because you don't have 50+ sacks a year doesn't mean you can't have a "TOP 10 Defense" just look at the Steelers, they had 35 sacks this year and they were the #1 overall defense and the Hawks were just behind them with 33 sacks and were the #9 overall defense... <br /><br />Now, Just look at this, The Vikings and The Eagles both had 50 sacks in 2011' and there's a huge gap between them in overall defense The Eagles were at #8 overall (just in front of the Hawks w/33-sacks), and The Vikings were at #21 in overall defense, So what does that tell you Mr. Brandon Adams?, I'll tell you what it tells me, It tells me that sacks in this "passing era" that you brought up are highly overrated and a good defense is based on "ALL" 11 players and not just the ones who get the sacks...Mr. Handynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-12438328032985860172012-03-14T18:25:25.372-07:002012-03-14T18:25:25.372-07:00Thomas Beekers at Field Gulls has floated an argum...Thomas Beekers at Field Gulls has floated an argument that Carroll would like to be more aggressive on D once he gets the personnel (penetrating one-gap technique for the linemen, to get technical), so that would mesh with what Kip and Rob have floated in their analyses on Seahawks Draft Blog, and Brandon's hope here. So, yes, it is a case of let's-see. I hope the D is the immovable, nasty unit we'd all like to see.<br /><br />Regardless, Carroll has never shied from stating he wants to run the ball and stop the run on D. While he's flexible on a lot of fronts, if those are his main goals, I just think it makes building a winning team that much harder in the NFL these days.<br /><br />As a fan who doesn't have a blog, I'm certainly willing to give Carroll the benefit of the doubt. (It's not like I have a choice about it.) I gave Mora the same benefit for a full year until week 16 or so, and Flores for at least two seasons. Pete has earned more than that.Kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-4777529311241531612012-03-14T12:29:49.506-07:002012-03-14T12:29:49.506-07:00If what I read is correct, all of Bryant's gua...If what I read is correct, all of Bryant's guaranteed money comes in the first two years of his deal. After that, Seattle can abandon ship at any time with no penalty (which also makes Bryant a prime candidate for restructure). So in a sense, his contract really is an extension of the experiment rather than a forced long term fixture.<br /><br />That makes me feel a bit better about a contract I wasn't wild about myself when I first heard of it. Seattle is going to get creative about increasing the pass rush this season. In the likely event that they draft either Ingram or Upshaw, they would be forced to use hybrid 3-4 looks to get production out of those guys, and Red at LDE fits that strategy. If it doesn't work out, Seattle can ditch Bryant in 2014 and use a more traditional 4-3 approach instead. Given Carroll's outstanding track record to this point with scheme and talent evaluation, its not hard for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. I guess we'll see how it all works out.Kip Earlywinehttp://seahawksdraftblog.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-15811690495983327062012-03-14T07:38:54.642-07:002012-03-14T07:38:54.642-07:00These kind of comments hurt because they look true...These kind of comments hurt because they look true. Its the same with Lynch. My hope, both Bryant and Lynch are described as great locker room guys as well, so, Seahawks are signing two very good players at slightly higher prices who keep the team attitude the same. Let us hope that has a lot of impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-51437149288354721592012-03-14T07:18:25.100-07:002012-03-14T07:18:25.100-07:00Good to see you back, guys. I'm hardly a schem...Good to see you back, guys. I'm hardly a scheme expert and would like to think that Red has value to the defense beyond what we've been talking about. Let's wait and see what happens when this year's pass-rush reinforcements do arrive, wherever they go.Brandon Adamshttp://17power.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-88281025846947103352012-03-14T07:09:22.080-07:002012-03-14T07:09:22.080-07:00Nice post. I think our defense had atrophied so m...Nice post. I think our defense had atrophied so much in the Ruskell years that people are looking at the big and young players now, and the moderate success they've had (mostly against weak or turnover-prone offenses), and dreaming of a shutdown unit. Pete's scheme, however, even if it is fully realized, won't be it--tough, yes, hard-hitting, and able to shut down Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. But not enough to win road playoff games against elite NFL quarterbacks.Kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-64254554178749928262012-03-14T06:49:24.124-07:002012-03-14T06:49:24.124-07:00Good read.
Don't worry about the stormtroope...Good read. <br /><br />Don't worry about the stormtrooper analogy; Iceheart, Admiral Dahlia, and Grand Admiral Thrawn have your back.neurocellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12682975810327678648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3012469417215497172.post-53441763403219823412012-03-13T21:07:37.558-07:002012-03-13T21:07:37.558-07:00Nice to see you writing again, Brandon. Could it ...Nice to see you writing again, Brandon. Could it be possible that Bryant's higher than expected contract value is reflected by his media perception?<br /><br />Think about it: Sando has said several times about how Bryant is crucial to the Seahawks' defensive line. More than that, a good number of media outlets have listed Bryant as one of the more valuable free agents available. Peter King listed Bryant at #15 of top 50 free agents; Pete Prisco at CBS listed Bryant at #6 of his top 30; and Evan Silva of Pro Football Talk listed Bryant at #45 out of 100 top free agents.<br /><br />Now, that's not say that the media's opinion is God in all matters regarding how much someone should be paid, but it does have some pull. This, in addition to the Patriot's interest may be why Bryant was signed at this total. It may also explain why it took the Seahawks this long to sign Bryant.<br /><br />Though, this is all conjecture on my part.Joe Millernoreply@blogger.com